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#1 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:41:39 PM(UTC)

I am beginning to formulate what I would like in my new dream kitchen remodel that we should be tackling within the year.  I have ideas but having so many like minded food oriented people here is something I can't pass up.  What would you love in your dream kitchen?  Preferences on brands, types of equipment?  Considerations for space?  Pros and cons on surfaces?  Things that you did that make you happy?  Things that you regret?  I'm interested in any input!!!!!

#2 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:57:09 PM(UTC)

I really envy you - I have never had a house where I have put in a new kitchen and I fantasize about it.  The feature I love most about my current kitchen is a large central island - it really helps having lots of space to cook on.  The feature I wish I had is a 6 burner range with a double oven.  I don't have space for it in this kitchen but I'm definitely going to get one in my next house (or next life!).  I would also love to have a walk-in larder where I could easily see all my supplies on the shelves.  An alternative that takes up less space is one of those pull-out larders that are floor to above head height with shelves that you can access from either side.  I do like my corner appliance cupboard which is at counter height and I can stash away the food processor, waffle iron, coffee grinder, etc.


Good luck with it - keep us updated on your progress.

#3 Posted : Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:06:18 PM(UTC)
Gas stove! I cannot get behind electric. Maybe because I just like fire.
#4 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 9:47:38 AM(UTC)

Oooooh, what fun!  We took our 1901 fixer-upper down to the studs and started rehabbing it ten years ago (work still continues to this day), so I had the fun of designing my dream kitchen.


Things I got right:


For the floor I used the same rugged linoleum tiles they used in my daughter's high-school cafeteria, in a splotchy speckled pattern, dark and light on battleship grey.  You could slaughter a cow in my kitchen and the floor would look none the worse for it.


Gas stovetop, two electric ovens, one topfit for broiling, the other convection for baking and roasting.


No dishwasher.  I collect pottery, so have to wash most of my dishes by hand anyway.


No garbage dispose-all.  It took a while for the composting folks in the City of Seattle to catch up with my concept, but Seattle now composts all food materials including animal bones and fat and soiled paper products (like pizza boxes).  Having no garbage-eating appliance in my kitchen made me very forceful as an advocate for city composting.


I kept my old cutting table, an inexpensive 3'x5' wood table that I have been cutting on for 25 years.  The first year, 25 years ago, it looked pretty grotty, but by now it's beautifully distressed and a memory bank for all our kitchens past.  I warmly recommend a cutting table rather than a cutting board -- room to spread out.  We also eat some meals there.


A big peninsula with open shelves up to counter height on both sides and then pass-through shelves above the counter.  I keep all our ordinary everyday dishes on the pass-through part, so I can get help setting the table without having somebody elbowing me on my side of the peninsula.


On the other side of the peninsula, there's a separate area for my husband's cooking tasks, which include whizzing up veggie smoothies in the morning, making coffee, and making his lunch on work days.  We can both work in the kitchen without getting in each other's way.  He has his own small sink there, although he still does impinge on my big double sink on my side of the peninsula, I don't know why.


I painted each of the four walls a slightly different color, dark yellow mustardy and turmeric colors, because I knew I was going to spend more time in the kitchen than in any other room in the house and I wanted my view to stay lively.  The painters told me I was crazy, and maybe somebody else might not like it, but I love it.


A forgiving surface for countertops, two of them wood, the third formica.  I had a hard countertop surface, tile, in a house I lived in many years ago, and I'm just not careful enough to use a hard surface like that well.  I broke dozens of glasses and plates and abused all my knives inadvertently.  Never again.  I wonder that people like granite countertops -- they must be much more careful than I am.


I just a couple of months ago got one of those thick gel mats to stand on while I'm doing the dishes, and I wonder what took me so long, my feet and legs love it.


Things I got wrong:


I didn't analyze the traffic patterns carefully enough, and there's one particular pathway, from the open part of the kitchen, past the cutting table, to my husband's side of the peninsula that's 2-3 inches too small when somebody's sitting at the cutting table.  If I had thought it out better, the peninsula could be just a smidgen shorter and we wouldn't experience that particular bottleneck and bang into each other.  Figuring out your working patterns and traffic paths is by far the most important part of the design.


Um, I'm kind of embarrassed to mention this, but I didn't test out my stove fully while it was under warranty, and I got some Cadillac features that haven't proved worthwhile.  The wok burner is powerful, but because it's only a ring with no central flame it doesn't do a good job of heating the wok evenly.  My nice little carbon steel wok I got in China has a usage ring where the flames hit the pan.  And having two ovens is fabulous, I love it, but I can't have both on full blast or the stove blows a gasket, one or both ovens turn off, and I have to wrestle the stove away from the wall so I can hit the Reset button.


Things I'm still working on:


For many years we had a guest room, principally for our mothers, but both of them are past their visiting years now, so I'm converting the guest room to a pantry.  It was quite a small guest room, but it's huge for a pantry.  Oh joy!

#5 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 11:34:39 AM(UTC)
mcvl - I want your kitchen!! lol That sounds fantastic. Maybe in our next house :)
#6 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 1:13:42 PM(UTC)
Thank you Thank you! What great comments, every one. About 15 years ago I got to tear a kitchen out and re-do but it was in a row house and had considerable space constraints. It was basically a galley but the length did afford good cabinet and counter space. I am thrilled to have more space to work with this time. I am hoping to have an island. Jane what surface do you have on yours? No room for an actual walk in pantry but the cabinet pantry unit sounds like a good alternative and the appliance garage sounds great to eliminate clutter. MCVL your kitchen sounds like a dream both high functioning and warm and welcoming. I'm leaning toward black and cream and thinking about using blackboard paint on the walls. I had hardwood floors years ago and other than a couple of floods (can you believe I had a Great Dane that could turn on the kitchen faucet and the water/ice in the fridge door as he needed!). I am very interested in those mats and glad to get the comments, ready for those now. I was able to utilize drawers in the lower cabinets and I'm hoping to repeat that. Anybody willing to further discuss appliance brands? I have always had gas and now have a 25 yr. old Jenn Air electric cooktop that is a daily challenge. Is there a doubt about preference?? Anyone working with the new solid surface cooktops? Thanks again for the great input. Happy dining tonight!
#7 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 5:15:22 PM(UTC)

I have granite worktops and unlike mcvl haven't experienced any problems with them.  I like being able to put hot pans on the worktop without worrying about it.  They are easy to keep clean and mine are black so never show any marks.


My parents have the induction solid surface cooktops and they are amazingly fast at bringing water to the boil.  And so easy to clean.  They cool down as soon as the pan comes off and you just wipe it clean.  So easy compared to my gas hob where I have to remove and clean the burner tops and the grids.

#8 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 8:12:15 PM(UTC)

I'm in the process of installing a new kitchen at a holiday home - it's meant to be a low-cost upgrade, but very fortunate that the cabinet maker had a huge granite bench that was wrong for another installation so getting it very cheap - the kitchen is being designed around it!   I've had granite before and love it - though you do have to be careful with heavy pots, like Le Creuset, as it can chip.  I've also had composite granite  that is more hard wearing.


This is my 10th kitchen I've installed - yes I move around a lot!  One of the major things I've learnt is that the flow has to be right.  When I look at the plans I imagine lots of different scenarios and work my way around the kitchen.  Making a cup of tea;  the kids getting breakfast - while I'm making lunches; the table being set - while I'm making dinner; the dishwasher being loaded - what's the flow from the table.   Preparing vegetables - where would you do it and how does that relate to the position of the bin/sink/insinkerator (if you're having one).  I once had the sink on my left which was totally wrong.  The only place I could put a fridge was at one end of the kitchen and there would be a lot of bumping into each other, so put a small fridge in the other end which has all the things the family needs - milk, yogurt, juices etc.


The other thing I do is mark on the plan what will go into every drawer/cupboard it really makes you think about the size and shape of every space.  Think about everything you have in the current kitchen and place it into a space in the new one. 


I love big, pull-out drawers rather than cupboards.  I have them for pots, appliances and crockery. 


I've had a wide oven, thinking it would be really useful.  But now prefer to have two standard size or one standard and one small one - a configuration you can often get in standalone units.  A large sink is essential if you have a wide oven - otherwise it's impossible to wash the trays!


I have an induction hob with 4 rings - I love it mainly because it's incredibly fast to heat up and you can control the heat very precisely.   You have to be careful not to overheat pots - my first time using it I managed to crack a cast iron griddle.  My ideal would be to have induction with one gas ring - as there are just a few things that I don't think it does as well.  I haven't been able to make good omelettes or pancakes and I prefer gas for wok cooking. 


A lot of the design comes down to your personality as well.  My husband likes everything hidden away (but then he doesn't cook) I like to have lots of thing on the bench or hanging up.  Think about what you want showing - utensils, platters, cookbooks so you have plenty of open space for these things without taking up all your bench space.   There are some good kitchen sites that I've been looking through for ideas - I love looking at people's kitchens on The Kitchn http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/home-tours


Hope this helps - have fun!