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#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:39:59 PM(UTC)
I have been having great fun cooking from Diana Henry's cookbooks these past few weeks but I keep bumping up against ingredient names that baffle me as an American cook. For instance the other day I was stumped by a recipe that called for Swedes. After a computer search I found these are turnips. Then tonight while browsing through Crazy Water, Pickled Lemons I kept running into an ingredient called "Plain Chocolate". What was that? I am familiar with unsweetened, semi-sweet and bittersweet chocolate but once again had to do a computer search to find out that plain chocolate can mean any of these three types of chocolate but is usually bittersweet. Am I the only one stumbling over unfamiliar names for familiar ingredients? I would guess that the confusion goes both ways with non-American cooks struggling with our names for things too when using an American cookbook. That made me think that maybe we need a glossary, dictionary or translation section either on the forum or someplace else on EYB where we could quickly go to find alternate names for ingredients.
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:51:09 AM(UTC)

Probably a good idea - I get stuck with different types of cream! Heavy, whipping, single, double, half-and-half...

#3 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:21:31 PM(UTC)

It would be a huge undertaking for us to create an ingredient glossary - we have over 27,000 ingredients in the database.  Given that we have so many experts as members maybe we should create a wiki glossary that members could contribute to and edit.


We do link ngredient names - so if you search by plain chocolate you find all recipes with dark chocolate.  Or search by aubergine and you see everything with eggplant.  That won't really help you when you want to know what an ingredient is.  But maybe start a new thread "What's this ingredient?" and members will join in.  Since EYB members are from all over the world there is bound to be someone who knows what the ingredient is.


Foodycat - I understand your confusion with cream.  Cream is quite different in the UK - much thicker, richer and generally more delicious.  Double cream has nowhere near as much air as whipped heavy cream but is the nearest equivalent.  Likewise single cream is richer than light cream but again the closest equivalent.  There isn't a UK half-and-half - people generally use full fat milk in coffee.

#4 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:59:27 PM(UTC)

Jane - I apologize if this isn't the place to bring it up, but this topic is related to a big issue for me with ingredient indexing.


Basically: The 30-item limit on dropdown lists makes it impossible to review the possible types of ingredients with large numbers of variants. Suppose a recipe calls for a type of sausage that doesn't seem to be in the ingredient list. You need to be able to review all the EYB types of sausage to see if there's one that is an equivalent. But '[space] sausage' brings up a list that only gets to L. Indexers can't be expect to guess the M-Z choices. The 30-item limit has to be increased, at a minimum.


Ideally, frequent indexers* have to be given (read-only) access to the full database, including the linked ingredients.


 


* EYB pro indexers, and members who've indexed multiple books (tiny % of members overall, and even pretty small fraction of members who've done any indexing).

#5 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:56:57 PM(UTC)

Jane I like your idea of a Wiki section for members to edit or just a continuing Forum topic where members can post their queries and other members can answer.  Searching for terms online is ok but not always definitive and I think I would trust other EYB members more than some anonymous online post.

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