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#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2022 5:03:11 PM(UTC)

I'm planning a menu to cook for someone special. I'd like to make coquille st jacques as a starter. What suggestions do you have to follow that as a main course (protein)? These are some I was considering: 


Roast chicken with herb and lemon past from The Olives Table


Cornish hens in a mustard cream sauce from The Country Cooking of France


Roast rabbit with mustard from The Country Cooking of France


 


I'm trying to stay in poultry or rabbit, but I'll consider pork or lamb. Fish seemed redundant. No beef. 

#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:05:12 PM(UTC)

My family loves coquille st jacques and I'm pretty much required to make them for the family over the holidays. I use Ina Garten's recipe, though for the tastes of my family, I at least double the mushrooms, and up the curry powder as well. Given how rich they are, I would avoid a cream sauce in the main course.


The lemon and herb sounds like a nice contrast.


And just a thought, but some folks aren't comfortable with tricky to eat foods like cornish game hens and some are squemish about rabbit because 'bunny'. There, you just need to know your audience.

#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 8:35:54 AM(UTC)

With grapes in season, how about Braised Chicken with Gewürztraminer and Grapes from Fine Cooking. 


I agree about skipping Cornish game hen unles you know the person is ok with getting their fingers dirty.  The same with rabbit as many would not eat. 

#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 8:54:56 AM(UTC)

I checked if I had the Todd English's recipe and I did.  That would be a very good recipe to make and easy recipe not requiring last minute simultaneous cooking. Are you also preparing a potato side and some kind of green with that?

#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 8:59:08 AM(UTC)

There's many people I would never serve rabbit to, but I think this person would for sure be ok with it. I agree cornish hens may not be very elegant to eat. Presentation is impressive though. Actually I was more nervous about serving a main dish with grapes than rabbit because some people may not like warm grapes, same with olives. But that Braised Chicken with Gewürztraminer and Grapes sounds like something I'd love, although I have to replace all alcohol in my cooking.  

#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 9:16:31 AM(UTC)

Although much harder to find, there are non alcohol white and red wines.  The same with no alcohol beer.  You will get the flavor profiles in cooking. 

#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 9:56:42 AM(UTC)

Rinshin;26873 wrote:
Although much harder to find, there are non alcohol white and red wines.  The same with no alcohol beer.  You will get the flavor profiles in cooking.


I've used the alcohol removed wines, but they are limited, and something sweet like a Gewürztraminer or Reisling isn't likely, but maybe adding sugar would work to sweeten a dry wine. Since alcohol removed wines still have some alcohol, I wouldn't use it when cooking for others in my religion because I don't know how strict they are about it, but it works well for those who aren't particular about alcohol. Another thing I've used in the past is verjus, and that works really nice. 

#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 10:41:16 AM(UTC)

Yes, verjus is good.  It has a nice tang. 

#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 1:12:32 PM(UTC)

This is what I have so far:


Appetizer-


coquilles st jacques


Main course-


roast chicken with herb and lemon paste (I was going to do just the chicken breasts)


greens with bacon lardons and garlic


rice pilaf with fennel


 


I'm looking at desserts and not sure what direction I want to take it. These are some things I found that interest me:


Pear and chocolate tart from The Country Cooking of France


Taiellevent pear souffle from The Essential New York Times Cookbook


Lemon-lime souffle tart from The Last Course: The Desserts of Gramercy Tavern (would lemon in the dessert be too much after lemon in the chicken?)


Clove granita from The Essential New York Times Cookbook (this doesn't seem substantial enough for a dessert, but sounds really interesting)


Cantaloupe-star anise sorbet from The Essential New York Times Cookbook


Milk chocolate souffles with nougat whip

#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 7:38:50 PM(UTC)

If you are going to do chicken breasts, then you may want to check out if you can see the directions.  Then you can skip the rice pilaf to make it easier.   


Greek chicken and potato traybake fromChristopher Kimball's Milk Street Magazine


Any of those recipes for dessert sound good but not the granita.  Good luck and have fun.

#12 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2022 9:30:03 PM(UTC)

The Taiellevent pear souffle would require a replacement for the pear brandy (the pear eau de vie) since you are cooking sans alcohol. I doubt that it adds much in terms of flavor here. But the lower flash point of the alcohol might be involved in the rise of the souffle -- similiar reason to replacing part of the water with vodka in pastry. I've only made 1 or 2 souffle's in my life, so perhaps someone with more expertise could chime in.

#11 Posted : Thursday, September 1, 2022 5:03:22 PM(UTC)
Rinshin;26878 wrote:
<p>If you are going to do chicken breasts, then you may want to check out if you can see the directions. &nbsp;Then you can skip the rice pilaf to make it easier. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<h1>Greek chicken and potato traybake&nbsp;<span class="h2"><span>from</span><a class="title" href="https://www.eatyourbooks.com/library/208340/christopher-kimballs-milk-street-magazine">Christopher Kimball's Milk Street Magazin</a>e</span></h1>
<p>Any of those recipes for dessert sound good but not the granita. &nbsp;Good luck and have fun.</p>

I made a small batch of the granita yesterday to see what it was like, and it reminded me of cola. It was surprisingly tasty.

I thought about doing potatoes with the chicken, but the recipe I want to use bakes them at 500°. It seemed hot for potatoes.
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 1, 2022 5:06:32 PM(UTC)

Fyretigger;26879 wrote:
The Taiellevent pear souffle would require a replacement for the pear brandy (the pear eau de vie) since you are cooking sans alcohol. I doubt that it adds much in terms of flavor here. But the lower flash point of the alcohol might be involved in the rise of the souffle -- similiar reason to replacing part of the water with vodka in pastry. I've only made 1 or 2 souffle's in my life, so perhaps someone with more expertise could chime in.

I figured I could find a pear juice of some sort. I’ve made a soufflé without alcohol, so perhaps it would be good to compare the recipes to see if there might be significant differences. The recipe for the granita said it was originally paired with poached pears, so I thought about doing the pear soufflé with the granita along side.

#14 Posted : Saturday, September 3, 2022 8:29:55 AM(UTC)

MarciK;26882 wrote:
I figured I could find a pear juice of some sort. I’ve made a soufflé without alcohol, so perhaps it would be good to compare the recipes to see if there might be significant differences. The recipe for the granita said it was originally paired with poached pears, so I thought about doing the pear soufflé with the granita along side.


The main reason I would skip a soufflé is the need for last minute cooking, leaving your guests at the table while you whip egg whites and (I think?) hover over the oven.

#15 Posted : Saturday, September 3, 2022 9:30:38 AM(UTC)
I’ve had success making soufflés ahead and cooking right before serving.
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