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#1 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:50:03 AM(UTC)

In Beet pulp crepes from Scraps, Wilt & Weeds: Turning Wasted Food into Plenty the ingredient beet pulp appears. But when I add a personal recipe only beet purée [beet pulp] is available. However,  beet purée is a wet product not a dry ingredient so I would be misled if I believed I had the ingredients for making the recipe. How do I enter the correct "beet pulp" only ... the dry form?


 



#2 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 2:02:52 AM(UTC)

 


Mjes, I guess the EYB solution to the issue that you've been raising  is that it assumes you have the book / magazine / hyperlink as a source reference and can check back on .. as I understand EYB's approach it's not a recipe database that allows you to reproduce the ingredients listing in full/detail - hence such things as store cupboard ingredients and threshold quantities... It's been a "work in progress" since inception and the utility of "listing" beet pulp/ puree; Colatura/anchovy essence etc etc etc that you've been raising as you've come across them while bookmarkleting is a consequence of that.. if they created every spelling variation/ interpretation / botanical names vs common names in the countries members cook from/cater in they'd have a major re-code/re-entry issue to address and the requirement for more bandwidth etc etc... As you say it's a very useful resource and one that is woirth showing off to friends and associates that cook.. for $30 a year it's a god send in my kitchen! Coping with the "not quite exactly" issues that you raise...one small price!! Enjoy using the site - I'm sure that despite the shortcomings you've illuminated it'll still be worth the membership!!


 


mjes;12151 wrote:


In Beet pulp crepes from Scraps, Wilt & Weeds: Turning Wasted Food into Plenty the ingredient beet pulp appears. But when I add a personal recipe only beet purée [beet pulp] is available. However,  beet purée is a wet product not a dry ingredient so I would be misled if I believed I had the ingredients for making the recipe. How do I enter the correct "beet pulp" only ... the dry form?


 




#3 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 10:58:45 AM(UTC)

mjes, it might help to understand exactly how ingredients and variations work in EYB. When you see an ingredient listed in the Ingredients field drop-down in square brackets ([ ]) behind another ingredient, it means that the square-bracketed ingredient is a variation of the first, or "master", ingredient. If you select the square-bracketed variation from the drop-down, that is what will be listed in the recipe's Ingredients field. (The technical aspects of name and spelling variations are explained and illustrated in more detail here in the Member Indexers Administration Manual, and how to apply variations in practice is covered here in the Indexing Form Instructions.) 


So when you select 'beet purée [beet pulp]' from the drop-down, the recipe will show only 'beet pulp' in the ingredients list. Putting aside any possible mismatches/misassociations you may find in the Ingredients database (which as debkellie mentioned are present, and inevitable in a database as big as EYB), 'beet purée [beet pulp]' *is* the "beet pulp"-only version you're looking for and should list. (If you wanted to list 'beet purée' instead, you'd select the stand-alone 'beet purée' master ingredient.) And when you search in Recipes for "beet pulp" (with quotes, to search that exact phrase), you'll see recipe titles containing "beet pulp" listed first, followed by recipes indexed with "beet pulp" in the ingredients list.


 


 

#4 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:34:08 PM(UTC)

Deborah;12154 wrote:


So when you select 'beet purée [beet pulp]' from the drop-down, the recipe will show only 'beet pulp' in the ingredients list. Putting aside any possible mismatches/misassociations you may find in the Ingredients database (which as debkellie mentioned are present, and inevitable in a database as big as EYB), 'beet purée [beet pulp]' *is* the "beet pulp"-only version you're looking for and should list. (If you wanted to list 'beet purée' instead, you'd select the stand-alone 'beet purée' master ingredient.) And when you search in Recipes for "beet pulp" (with quotes, to search that exact phrase), you'll see recipe titles containing "beet pulp" listed first, followed by recipes indexed with "beet pulp" in the ingredients list.


 



Thanks for the explanation - I hadn't realized that the ingredient list was hierarchical. It would be so much easier if one could browse the ingredient list to get a sense of its structure.

#5 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 4:25:30 PM(UTC)

Deborah - I tried your suggestion on a personal recipe and it made no difference if I clicked on the main entry or the portion in square brackets. What am I misunderstanding?

#6 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:00:25 PM(UTC)

mjes, I just sent you an email in an attempt to sort out your question.

#8 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:56:29 PM(UTC)

In case anyone else is confused by mjes' question, when you click on an ingredient in the database that has an alternative in brackets, then just the ingredient in brackets appears in the ingredient list for that recipe. So if you click "beet purée [beet pulp]" in the ingredient list, then "beet pulp" is the ingredient that appears in the list. But if you searched by beet pulp in your recipe searches then you will also see recipes with beet purée.


Perhaps an easier example is when an indexer adds the ingredient "zucchini [courgettes]" then it appears in the recipe as courgettes but a search by zucchini or courgettes will show that recipe. If the indexer adds the ingredient "zucchini" then it appears on that recipe as zucchini but because courgettes are a linked ingredient, a search by courgettes will also show that zucchini recipe.

#7 Posted : Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:58:05 PM(UTC)

Deborah;12165 wrote:


mjes, I just sent you an email in an attempt to sort out your question.



Thanks - I get it now. The bracketed entry appears in the accepted recipe while the longer form appears on the input.

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