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#42 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2019 7:07:05 PM(UTC)

This is a great topic!


I avoid cookbooks with small type, too much description, and unnatractive design.


For me the design being appealing is very important.


I also need photos of almost every recipe! Yes, I'm like that. And I love to see the author on the cover and throughout the book if they're interesting looking.


I cook like I read music -- to listen to the thoughts of the cook or musician, and seeing the author's picture helps me "get inside their head."


Bring on the celebrity chefs, I love 'em. If they have great recipes.


Finally, because of my dietary preferences, I avoid cookbooks with a lot of sugar and butter. I have baking books with tons of sugar and butter, but a general cookbook shouldn't have it because I eat pretty healthy. We also don't eat red meat or pork, so I veer away from books with tons of those kind of recipes. poultry and seafood are fine. I love vegetarian/vegan alternative cookbooks for their creativity.


I like lots of vegetables, a manageable number of ingredients, and a nice tone of voice in the writing.


I don't want much, do I!

#43 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2019 9:45:24 PM(UTC)
I'm with you on the lots of vegetables, despite my love for Ashkenazi Jewish cooking.
I'm a contrarian in preferring measuring cups, like PinchOfSalt and Joy the Baker. Reading over this thread I was amazed at seeing how many posts were about the superiority of a scale to those awful cups.
#44 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:07:57 PM(UTC)
Isn’t that funny? So many people like the scale. I don’t care either way, but after cooking my share of heavy cakes, I’m starting to think I should weigh flour. There’s not enough consistency in how much flour authors have in one cup.
Am I right or did I miss a universal rule of measuring?

I’ll have to check out Ashkenazi Jewish cooking. I’m just starting to learn about Jewish cooking, but I worked at a spice shop that specializes in Middle Eastern and Israeli spice blends.
That was fun!
#45 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2019 8:46:21 PM(UTC)
Ashkenazi Jews are the traditionally Yiddish- and German-speaking Jews from Central and Eastern Europe and their descendants, and since Jews usually eat the food of the places where they live, Ashkenazi Jewish cooking, what we usually call Jewish cooking, is the food of Central and Eastern Europe adapted to the Jewish dietary laws. By the same token, Israeli food is Middle Eastern food.

Now that home cooks are aware of more and more international cuisines, we have a broader awareness of what Jewish cooking is and we have cookbooks for Sephardic (Spanish-rooted) cookery and world Jewish cookery. In this sense, "Ashkenazi Jewish" is a retronym, like "print book," "acoustic guitar," or "conventional oven"; it means knishes, pastrami, bagels, latkes, blintzes, etc.
#46 Posted : Sunday, May 12, 2019 3:17:55 AM(UTC)

It sounds strange but probably my biggest dislike in a cookbook is the use of glossy photography...... I’m weird like that! Oddly glossy photography seem to be norm in American cookbooks whereas not so much here in the U.K. Also to weigh-in on the measurements issue, being a European I’m in the grams & millilitres camp. Sorry but using cups just seems bizarre! Talking of measurements, there seems to be an increase in the number of cookbooks listing ingredients 3 ways i.e. first in grams, then cups and then imperial which to my mind looks messy. Don’t get me started on books that provide a constant reminder EVERYTIME an ingredient is mentioned as to its other variant.... Coriander(Cilantro) or Courgette(Zucchini)

#47 Posted : Sunday, May 12, 2019 3:45:42 PM(UTC)
So cookbooks should NOT display measurements in ways that home cooks understand and are comfortable with? Metrics and scales should be forced on readers? What is the good that will come from that?
#48 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 2:54:07 PM(UTC)

I don't buy cookbooks if there are too many recipes that are too similar to what I already have, which rules out an awful lot now. Oddly enough, I don't have a cookbook with Turkish Delight, so that will be my next hunt.


I don't mind weights or measurements, but I like how precise measuring in grams seems. I did buy a cookbook that, when I took it home and looked through it, said tablespoons used are equivalent to 4 teaspoons, or 20 ml. Well that's tricky. I'm glad I saw that. I found through eBay a set of Australian measuring spoons with a 20 ml tablespoon. I figured why not have it around.

#49 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:38:04 PM(UTC)
Weight measurements vs. American volume measurements I can work with, even reluctantly, but Australian volume measurements would leave me hopelessly confused.
#50 Posted : Saturday, May 18, 2019 10:49:47 AM(UTC)
I'm a vegetarian but tend to steer clear of vegetarian cookbooks and favour vegan cookbooks instead. My reason being that most vegetarian cookbooks that I have come across tend to rely heavily on dairy and eggs. When I'm looking for recipes I'm not interested in 20 different ways to make an omelette or grilled cheese. I became a vegetarian to eat more vegetables with the occasional sprinkle of parmesan on my pasta. I also won't buy a cookbook that offers mainly smoothies and buddha bowls.
#52 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2019 11:43:26 AM(UTC)
Thanks, dmco6863. That's an insight that might be lost on occasional vegetarians, eat-less-meat-arians and Friday-in-Lent fasters.

And as a lifelong resident of New York City I don't always know what is or is not available elsewhere in the country, so chefs and food writers without any contacts in, say, rural Missouri may not know that a product we take for granted here may be hard to find there. Who knew that whole-milk mozzarella might be hard to find somewhere else? Here in NYC it's in the dairy case, right next to the part-skim mozzarella.
#53 Posted : Thursday, June 13, 2019 12:22:46 PM(UTC)

bittrette;17631 wrote:
Who knew that whole-milk mozzarella might be hard to find somewhere else? Here in NYC it's in the dairy case, right next to the part-skim mozzarella.

I'm in NYC also, and I was also puzzled by that comment about whole-milk mozzarella being difficult to find. My primary supermarket is Scaturro's (Italian) -- so even thought it's a relatively small store I'm sure that they always have whole-milk mozzarella cheese in stock.

#54 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 12:49:08 PM(UTC)
Another reminder of how diverse NYC is. I'd never heard of Scaturro's until now. My primary supermarkets are Key Food, Associated, and Trade Fair. OTOH NYC has no Acme, Krogers. Safeway, or Publix AFAIK.
#51 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 2:21:59 PM(UTC)

dmco6863;17539 wrote:
I'm a vegetarian but tend to steer clear of vegetarian cookbooks and favour vegan cookbooks instead. My reason being that most vegetarian cookbooks that I have come across tend to rely heavily on dairy and eggs. When I'm looking for recipes I'm not interested in 20 different ways to make an omelette or grilled cheese. I became a vegetarian to eat more vegetables with the occasional sprinkle of parmesan on my pasta. I also won't buy a cookbook that offers mainly smoothies and buddha bowls.

Yes!! I feel like cooking with tons of cheese and eggs is pretty lazy for a vegetarian cookbook author. It’s much more difficult to create compelling vegan food. Also, I have a profound hatred for Buddha bowls. Is it because I have to cook four different things for one dish? That you always have too much of something and not enough of the other the next day so leftovers never work? I think it’s a restaurant dish best left in the restaurant.

#55 Posted : Tuesday, October 1, 2019 8:08:47 AM(UTC)

Joy the Baker, who has a sentimental attachment to measuring cups (as I do), is now asking us to "give weighing a chance." I can't make a link (I'll have to ask Jane about that) but it's in the Washington Post.

#56 Posted : Tuesday, October 1, 2019 10:15:43 AM(UTC)
#57 Posted : Tuesday, October 1, 2019 10:59:55 AM(UTC)

bittrette - or even better you can embed the link in the text. Here's how:


Type the reference for the link in your post e.g. Washington Post article by Joy the Baker.
Highlight the text by holding down the Shift key then moving the cursor over the text.
When you do that the link icon in the toolbar above reveals (the third from the right).
Click the link icon, copy and paste the URL for the article into the Link URL field (the top one).
If the link is off the EYB site, as this one is, please click Target to change it to "Open in new window".
Washington Post article by Joy the Baker

#58 Posted : Tuesday, October 1, 2019 7:26:54 PM(UTC)
Unfortunately I use a smartphone, an Android device. If I had a full-size computer I'd be indexing books.
But it's nice to make a link, at long last.
#59 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 2:49:11 AM(UTC)

For me, I wouldn't buy a cookbook (at the moment) if:


- It was mostly Chinese or Indian recipes: I have so many cookbooks from these two genres full of recipes I haven't tried yet. They are two of my favourite types of cuisine which is why I've ended up with so many of them - but I have to draw the line right now.


- It's more than a third dessert/sweet recipes - I rarely make desserts or bake.


- It's mostly recipes that take over an hour to make. During the week I need recipes that will take me an hour or less to make when I get home from work. At the weekend I have lots more time to cook, but I also have a massive backlog of long-cook recipes that are waiting for me to have the time to try them out.


- There aren't any photographs. I do have a definite preference for being able to see what the finished dish is supposed to look like: it helps both in the preparation and in the decision whether to cook it or not.

#60 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:26:35 AM(UTC)

It is a great topic! On my end :


- Availability of ingredients in my area (London or Paris, which are quite international, but sometimes there are ingredients (mostly Asian, but can also be  American) I cannot find easily in either countries...)... Or if it calls for ingredients I find too confidential, weird, or hard to find, such as lecithin or liquid glucose or  .. (for me, I mean obviously this will be very different from another country or person point of view, I will find Maroilles cheese, Espelette pepper or Cadbury fingers/eggs/whatever acceptable, and not Old Bay seasoning, because I have not found it in the UK or France yet - sad that I know)


- Feasibility of techniques


- Grams or liters measurements please (or at least equivalences, or some kind of weight measures like ounces... )


- I hate the gluten free/vegan/health trend thing, I know it is just me, but it just irks me, I would not buy a book like this. As a matter of fact I have one (something about glow, ... ) and all recipes I have tried do not work for me at all, the assembly of ingredients is odd, does not work together, and is more style than substance in a whole lot of ways. If I have to cook for someone with a real food intolerance or allergies, I will just adapt a recipe or choose one off hand.


- Slopiness in writing, quality of photographs, lack of general appeal


- Written by non chef, or someone with no food experience (cooking for a family for 25 years do qualify as experience in my book though) - would especially avoid social media star, journalists, etc. with no food experience

#61 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 1:45:30 PM(UTC)

Interesting reply to my message to the (very good) NY Times Cooking section.


[me]   Any plans for optional photos?  I like paper, not digital, remembrances for recipes.  Right now, I have a huge stack of NYT printed recipes, annotated with yellow highlighter to remind me of the main features/ingredients.  A picture, even a thumbnail, would be nice.


[NY Times customer service reply]  (judging from her name and cute spelling, I am deducing that the NYTimes is using extremely young and unsophisiticated customer service agents)


Dear Suellen,

Thank you for contacting us at NYT Cooking. I'd like to take this time to thank you so much for being an All Access Plus subscriber. I apologize for the delay in responding. Unfortunately, we have had a high demand to no longer include the photo with the printed recipe. I can understand how this would be helpful to see the finished piece when making the recipe and I am so sorry that the photo is no longer included with the printed recipe.

Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any questions. Thank you for being the best part of The New York Times.

Sincerely,
Shyanne Havenhill
The New York Times Customer Care

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