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#25 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:29:35 AM(UTC)
When I think of two of my favorite cookbook authors- both of whom I cook from frequently, they have very different cookbook styles.
Ottolenghi is a restaurant chef, his recipes call for a long list of ingredients, some of which are esoteric if you don't frequent Middle Eastern grocer's, and I wouldn't consider his recipes very well written. I have to read and re read them to figure out the steps of the several components. Yet I have loved almost every recipe of his I have made.
Diana Henry is the epitome of home cook, her dishes rarely call for exotic ingredients, her writing style is straightforward as are her recipes. I also love that she gives flavor variations for so many of her recipes. She even has one cookbook that focuses on use of leftovers and such-

so, two of my favorite very different cookbooks are both called Plenty.
#22 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:36:51 AM(UTC)

ccav;6353 wrote:
And maybe this is trite/silly, but I don't like the ones with "girl" in the title (unless it is really about a child!).


Not to me it isn't.  I know it is usually done because it makes the title "catchier," but I can't stand it either.  I feel like it trivializes the skills of amazing female cooks and chefs, and seems to be a way more rarely used device for male chefs and cooks to go by "boy" in the title, regardless of catchiness.  (I feel like there is a Bobby Flay cookbook called "boy" and something, or other, but I can't think of other instances.)

#26 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2015 5:29:01 PM(UTC)
I'll avoid buying a book if:
It uses too much sugar
It duplicates similar topics i've already got lots of: how many books of middle-eastern cookery do I need? (Clearly more because I haven't any Ottolenghi ones)
If it hasn't got a real named author (unless truly compelling for another reason)
If it is far too faffy, cheffy, with lots of references to "see page x" in the ingredients list
It comes from a TV series
It contains only cup measures (just can't cope: how do you shop for that?)
It doesn't contain any very different recipes, or, worse, it contains pointlessly tweaked recipes for traditional favorites, eg blackberry crème brûlée.

#27 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 5:23:17 PM(UTC)

personally I ignore the eye candy pix and scan the general layout of the recipes and the font size...if too crowded or too small, eh.


then I scan the ingredients list, looking for the stuff I already stock my kitchen with, if I start to see lots of ingredients I don't use because they are expensive and/or not easily obtainable than out it goes. 


I want a cookbook to be friendly and approachable. 

#8 Posted : Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:47:24 PM(UTC)

lkgrover;6296 wrote:
I appreciate being able to see the recipes indexed on EYB -- then I get an idea of the range of recipes, and the type of ingredients used. Will this book require many ingredients that I need to go to a specialty or ethnic grocery for? Does it have a lot of herbs/spices that I do not regularly use? Also, does this book have a lot of recipes that I do not have in other books, or it does it mostly duplicate what is already on my shelves?


I also appreciate being able to examine the actual recipes, either on amazon or my local bookstore. I just need a few, to see the author's writing style and organization.


I appreciate lots of pictures of the recipes, as well as any unusual techniques. This often motivates me to choose a particular recipe. I am unlikely to buy a cookbook without photos, although I have a few on my bookshelves.


I enjoy pictures of the place for a regional cookbook; it helps give a broader sense of the culture. 


I will not buy any book with the author's picture on the cover. I consider this narcissistic. I am also critical of celebrities who publish cookbooks, especially if their fame is based on something other than cooking. If the author is NOT a celebrity, and has a few pictures of themselves enjoying food within the cookbook, that is okay. But I want mostly pictures of food, with a few regional scenery/culture photos (if it is an regional or ethnic cookbook).


I have a few cookbooks with poor indexes. This puts them in my "volunteer to member index" list, so that they would be more usable.


Could not agree with you more!! The only thing I would have to the list above and what makes me cringe is that a lot of recipes are too easy in some cookbooks... I don't really need a recipe to tell me that you can beat up some eggs and cheese and make a cheese omelet or grilled tomatoes on a toast :)

#20 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 11:22:37 AM(UTC)

PinchOfSalt;6332 wrote:
Okay, I will be a bit of a contrarian.  :)


Here are things that will make me avoid a cookbook unless I hear a good review from a source I trust:


1.  There are too many pictures.  I buy cookbooks to learn recipes and cuisines.  More pictures means less learning.  The exception is pictures that illustrate techniques.  A few pictures of finished dishes are okay, but landscapes, market pictures, pictures of the author, etc. are no-nos for me.


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5. The recipes are hard to read.  Tiny print, light-colored print, and page breaks that make you turn a page are sins.


6. The recipes are simplified but portrayed as being authentic ...


7. The book is a rehash of recipes from the same source that have previously been published ...


1. I hate overillustrated cookbooks. Landscapes, market pictures, and long narrative sequences are nearly always padding to justify a high price. There are a few exceptions that I like, e.g. Yotam Ottolenghi's books, but they are just that - exceptions.


Pictures of the author are even worse, esp. if they're just mugging for the camera. Really, who cares?


My sister gave me a big overillustrated book and I exchanged it for a cookbook with no illustrations at all. In my unsentimental opinion, a cookbook is an instruction manual. That's not to distract from the pleasure - I also read dictionaries and look at atlases for pleasure. And I read with my taste buds.


5. Badly designed books - that's one of my top peeves! If the book is hard to read when you're sitting in a chair, how much harder will it be when you're cooking! Another sin: putting page numbers near the spine rather than at the outer edge.


7. Depends on whether I have the earlier books, and whether the earlier books are in print or out of print.

#28 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2019 7:12:31 PM(UTC)
I read all the comments and then sat and thought .........

I have learned to open books in my hands in the store and observe if they STAYED open ..........honestly books that WON'T lay flat for whatever reason drive me NUTS!

I do appreciate pics of every finished dish .... it honestly sets a goal.

USEFUL indexing is key ....... I DO love my Canadian "Whitewater Cooks" books BUT unless I have written recipes / page numbers inside the front cover I have a terrible time finding recipes .......they are indexed by title - not ingredients etc .......grrrrr.

I do flip through looking for ingredients clearly not available in my small town .......yes, I can order some things online but I also put a priority on shopping locally.

I do NOT judge based on author ......honestly - lots of different people make really good food :)
#29 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2019 10:26:23 AM(UTC)

Point about photos of finished dishes is well taken. Nevertheless for me there is a line between illustration and overillustration, and between merely annoying and deal-breakingly obnoxious.


I don't mind a picture of the author on the cover, front or back. What I hate are: 1) pictures of the author inside the book, just for their own sake, and 2) a picture of the author on the spine, where it stares back at you even when the book is on the shelf.


Another deal-breaker is a horrid title. I don't mean what ae.bell considers a horrid title on the thread on underrated cookbooks - they're all fine to me. What I mean by a horrid title I'll explain in my next post.

#30 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2019 1:39:40 PM(UTC)
I buy lots of books some for myself and as gifts for others. If I am buying them for my daughter, who is dyslexic, the type and organization of the recipes on the page makes a big difference to her being able to follow them clearly - recipes written in paragraph form, closely spaced numbers that make it difficult to distinguish 1 1/2 from 11, etc. would make a book a NO for me to buy for her. She also insists on pictures of the final product, so no pictures makes a book a NO.

If I am buying them for myself, I am looking for things that are not repetitive of books I already have. Lately, I also been really busy so I've been leaning towards one dish/pan or casserole/stews during the winter months. I also like to have at least one picture of the final product for most recipes, although saying that some of my most used cookbooks have no pictures at all. As I am getting older and my vision is getting worse, I also am looking at typeface/boldness of type "Am I going to be able to read this in the evening in the kitchen?". Luis Troyano's cookbook I ordered sight unseen and the type is very light against the page and I have a lot of difficulty with it. So my firm NOs are repetitive general American cookbook type recipes, faint small type face, no pictures.
#31 Posted : Saturday, April 27, 2019 5:36:17 PM(UTC)

angrygreycat - for books that deliver more than they promise on the topic of one pan meals...take a look at Molly Gilbert's One Pan and Done

#32 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2019 2:39:08 PM(UTC)
I stay away from most loud mouthed chefs, cookbook authors, and any wannabe celebrity cooks. Esp from food network types except Ina. I am ok with Teigen because she genuinely loves to cook and eat.
#33 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2019 3:06:52 PM(UTC)

Measurements given in cups is a complete no-no for me, as a British person we weigh everything and I find butter especially awkward to measure in cups.  We don't have butter in sticks like the Americans do.

#34 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2019 9:42:15 AM(UTC)

When modern cookbooks only include ingredient measurements in cups and not in grams then I don't want the book.  I have collected hundreds of cookbooks and I avoid using the ones that don't include weight measurements.  Why would I want to add more to my library?  There are plenty of other cookbook options.

#35 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2019 10:23:26 AM(UTC)

Being from the UK, I avoid books with cup measurements, I don't understand how they can be accurate.  


I also steer clear of the latest fads and anything by Gordon Ramsay!

#36 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2019 12:45:31 PM(UTC)
Is all measurements in weight in UK? Including all liquid?
#37 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2019 1:31:46 PM(UTC)

In British cookbooks liquids are measured by volume but as ml not cups. You will still have some older measures such as teaspoons (5ml), dessertspoons (10ml) and tablespoons (15ml) but generally you will see all dry goods in grams and liquids in mls.

#39 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2019 3:36:37 PM(UTC)

...oh, and where oven temperatures are not given in centigrade and there is no temperature given for fan ovens.  This can also put me off US cookbooks. 

#40 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2019 5:06:12 PM(UTC)

I'm with you Pamsy .. cannot abide recipes that use cup measurements.. and regretably seems American and Oz books suffer from that style! Was delighted to read Shirley Corriher's discussion of same in "Bakewise" .....! I always end up writing in the accurate measurement (ie: weight/volume ) as marginal notes... Why do they do it .. surely we've come a long way since the days when the only way to achieve consistency was a cup.. the Avoir dupois weight/measurement system was after all around from 13th century , and standardised in 1959! That said, buying a new book or magazine for me requires clear recipes.. on a single page, ingredients listed with weights/volume, instructions dot pointed, and ideally a pic of the finished article,  without people!

#38 Posted : Sunday, May 5, 2019 7:15:06 PM(UTC)
Jane;17491 wrote:
<p>In British cookbooks liquids are measured by volume but as ml not cups. You will still have some older measures such as teaspoons (5ml), dessertspoons (10ml) and tablespoons (15ml) but generally you will see all dry goods in grams and liquids in mls.</p>


Then, it is similar to japanese cooking. They also use teaspoon, tablespoon, and pinch. But, cup is sometimes used in liquid too but their cup is 220 ml.
#41 Posted : Monday, May 6, 2019 1:00:03 PM(UTC)

"Girl" and "boy" don't bother me. Neither does the common noun "guy." If someone wants to call himself The Avocado Guy that's IMO typical marketing silliness.


But I promised to give an example of what I consider a deal-breakingly horrid title, so here it is:


The Mensch Chef: Why Delicious Jewish Cooking Isn't an Oxymoron. It's by Mitchell Davis.


For me that's cringeworthy on several levels. For one, the Yiddish word "mensch" (or "mensh") has nothing to do with being down to earth, or pleasant to be with. The word for that is "haimish." A mensch is a human being of the highest character, a person of honesty, integrity, compassion, courage, etc. As another poster said here, all kinds of people can be good cooks. How would you like "The Sterling Character Chef"?


Furthermore, "mensh" is a noun, and it will not do to use it as an adjective. The adjectival form IIRC is "menshlike," pronounced mensh-li-kuh.


And of course "delicious Jewish cooking" isn't an oxymoron. I can't imagine a statement in which it would be an oxymoron. An oxymoron is a deliberate device to describe something that is real in spite of the contradictory words. "Sweet sorrow" (Shakespeare). "Darkness visible" and "living death" (Milton). "Nose-holding charity" (Vonnegut).


Much as I'd love to have another good Jewish cookbook, I would cringe every time I saw this one, even if it had a recipe for the world's greatest kugel.


Another kind of title I hate is anything beginning "Not Your Mother's." That seems a deliberate appeal to the arrogance of youth. Why should I welcome such an appeal onto my bookshelves?

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