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#23 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2020 5:04:10 PM(UTC)

I feel like I have reverted to my cattle ranch roots - figuring out how to use what is available rather than depending on recipes. No more prowling ethnic stores or green markets for unusual ingredients. If it isn't common enough for delivery, I have to treat it as unavailable. I won't embarass myself by admitting how many meals look like a Ploughman's lunch or an antipasto plate. Spring is just beginning to break but I actually have sorrel from my garden and I've found a recipe that uses lillac syrup so I'm starting to feel hopeful.

Also note I live in the county of the first US Covid-19 case.  I've spent more time quarantined than most of you.

#24 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2020 6:54:16 PM(UTC)

I am actually in the grocery store more now, because I have chosen to shop for older friends and be their delivery service.  With restrictions on some purchases, I may have to go several times in a week to be sure everyone is getting a share of the harder to find options.  Some are cooks and some are not, some have restrictive dietary needs, which also has its challenges (if I can't find honey nut cheerios, would honey bunches of oats be ok?  Is spinach for cooking or for a salad?  Does the yogurt have to be blended?).  And then there is knowing that for many of these friends, food may be the true highlight of a day and I really want them to have the things they like. Having watched some of the personal shoppers in the store, I would much rather shop for my friends.  Food will arrive in clean bags, kept cool as needed, in a cooler so they can take their time putting it away.  One of my employees will be losing her significant other to deployment this weekend and may need a shopper as well, so she doesn't need to take her toddler to the store.


I am tremendously proud of my college age sons, who are stepping up and cooking when they never have before.  Not a word of complaint when they can't get favorite items, or have to eat around some ingredient they aren't fond of because I insist on using it up.  I won't let them go shopping-they aren't good enough at it to make me happy.


Other than paper products, my local store is pretty stocked.  The missing flour makes me laugh -I don't think most people are suddenly baking, I think they might just have bought flour!  On the other hand, maybe they are making lots and lots of brownies.

#22 Posted : Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:16:14 AM(UTC)

hillsboroks;18668 wrote:
What I would like to know is where did all the flour go? I've read where lots of people are making their own sourdough bread but would this take all the flour from all the stores? Locally none of the chain grocery stores, Costco or assorted smaller markets have any flour


I suspect that there is plenty of flour about as there's absolutely no shortage of bread and flour based products at least here in London, UK.


I'm thinking its more of a supply issue into the retailers. Bakeries buy flour in 55kg per sacks. For retailers to sell that amount its 37/55 individual packets. Combine maybe a 20% up tick in flour sales with maybe a 20% decrease in supply because of employees calling in sick/self isolating and that's what's giving us empty shelves.


Just my thoughts anyway!


BTW its really good to read how other people are making do in other parts of the world.


#StaySafeEveryone

#25 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:10:48 PM(UTC)

We have not gone out since 3/7 (doctor appt).


 Our county put shelter in on 3/16.  Had 4 grocery deliveries so far.  Very hard to get the slots for deliveries.  I have to check throughout the day for slots.  The shoppers really try, but it has been hit and miss with vegetables, snacks, and bread items.  Right now, my frig is jam packed because just received one big order which is mostly vegetables and dairy products.  


I did not know about flour shortages, but I was able to get a big bag of flour through a costco delivery shopper 2 wks ago.    I was curious and checked flour availability since then, and none available here.


Twice in one week, Fedex destroyed my orders.  Just now big order of canned cat food destroyed and earlier a case of marinara sauce destroyed.  I think they are working so fast due to demand and many boxes are damaged.  I feel badly because these are now wasted.  

#26 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:00:07 AM(UTC)

Yesterday was my best grocery day of the pandemic so far. We've been mostly relying on weekly grocery store delivery through Instacart and my husband goes to Whole Foods every two weeks for the bakery bread he likes.
But yesterday's grocery endeavor was the best.  I was able to pick up an oversized bag of restaurant quality produce from a local eatery that has opened a market. You order online, schedule a date and time, and pick up with contactless delivery. I was able to buy bunches of fresh basil, thyme, rosemary, and mint as well as strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, and vegetables for cooking and great salads. The restaurant also sells meat, and in-house made pasta.


I'm posting the experience here in case members aren't aware of the restaurant market  option. This one's new service wasn't publicized in the newspaper, radio, TV  or Yelp. A friend discovered it when she went on their website to donate to the employee pandemic compensation fund. It looks like restaurants are getting creative and adapting to the current situation - which is great for their employees and customers. 

#29 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:49:31 AM(UTC)
I have basically the same question about yeast. My small town of 3400 sold out of every type the week of March 16. However, it now April 18 and still no yeast of any kind in the 2 grocery stores. There may have been a brief restock as my friend finally managed to get bread machine yeast once - and no he doesn't actually have a bread machine. We have had a good selection of bread in both stores (once the initial panic buy mentality had ended) so I don't think everyone here is now baking their own bread all the time. Is the yeast being diverted to bakeries and/or to larger urban centers? Even Amazon basically said "due to shortages, we are not delivering certain products to your area" (or pretty close to that). As far as I can tell - you cannot get fleishmanns traditional yeast ANYWHERE.
#30 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:02:28 AM(UTC)

Have you tried ebay?  

#31 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:15:27 AM(UTC)
And of course I decided to research the dry yeast question AFTER my post......I am reading an article about Fleishmmans where company reps are explaining that one of the biggest issues (besides the unprecedented "off-season" demand - expected in Nov/Dec....not this time of year) is packaging. This includes issues as basic as not being able to get the jars and paper envelopes from their usual suppliers and of course having the required number of staff (following distancing and hygiene protocols) to fill packaging they DO have. And of course as yeast is a living organism, more staff won't speed up metabolism - even with adequate fermenting supplies.......biology is still in charge.
#32 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:22:19 AM(UTC)
Thanks for the tip Rinshin - I will!
#33 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:37:27 AM(UTC)

averythingcooks;18714 wrote:
Thanks for the tip Rinshin - I will!


If you have some room in your freezer, you can store yeast for a long time.  How long I don't know, but the big bag of yeast in my freezer is at least 15 years old. I check every time I use it to make sure it is still ok.  

#34 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:15:37 PM(UTC)

It looks like Amazon still has 1 lb bags of SAF instant yeast.  It's an excellent brand.  Instant yeast is a bit different from traditional active dry yeast.  If you haven't used it before, King Arthur has some good information on their website about it: https://www.kingarthurfl...om/learn/resources/yeast


Like Rinshin, I keep my SAF instant yeast in the freezer - it's been there 2+ years, tightly wrapped, and is still going strong!

#27 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:54:17 PM(UTC)

mharriman;18710 wrote:
Yesterday was my best grocery day of the pandemic so far. We've been mostly relying on weekly grocery store delivery through Instacart and my husband goes to Whole Foods every two weeks for the bakery bread he likes. 


But yesterday's grocery endeavor was the best.  I was able to pick up an oversized bag of restaurant quality produce from a local eatery that has opened a market. You order online, schedule a date and time, and pick up with contactless delivery. I was able to buy bunches of fresh basil, thyme, rosemary, and mint as well as strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, and vegetables for cooking and great salads. The restaurant also sells meat, and in-house made pasta.


I'm posting the experience here in case members aren't aware of the restaurant market  option. This one's new service wasn't publicized in the newspaper, radio, TV  or Yelp. A friend discovered it when she went on their website to donate to the employee pandemic compensation fund. It looks like restaurants are getting creative and adapting to the current situation - which is great for their employees and customers.


mharriman, I also live in Northern Va and had read about restaurant suppliers selling retail but all the links were for NY etc. I have not been able to find anything in this area and would love a source so my husband can stay out of the grocery store. I'm somewhat appalled by the lack of precautions at our local Whole Foods!

#28 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:25:44 PM(UTC)

Barb_N;18717 wrote:
mharriman, I also live in Northern Va and had read about restaurant suppliers selling retail but all the links were for NY etc. I have not been able to find anything in this area and would love a source so my husband can stay out of the grocery store. I'm somewhat appalled by the lack of precautions at our local Whole Foods!


Not a lot in NoVA, though quite a bit in D.C., see: DC Eater.

#36 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:07:55 PM(UTC)
I will admit I did check and then shy away from 1lb of yeast - my freezers are full of all kinds of treasures .....why not yeast ?? Thanks for the tips :)
#37 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:53:46 AM(UTC)

Supermarkets here have been more or less back to normal for about three weeks now so luckily I don't have much trouble getting hold of what I need. I've actually been really enjoying using this time to try lots of new recipes and do more cooking. I've achieved my goal of making at least three recipes from each cookbook I own, which feels good. But there remain 1,260 recipes that I've bookmarked as "want to make" on EatYourBooks. It'll take me quite a while to whittle that number down, but lockdown is a great opportunity to make a good dent in it!

#38 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 8:50:06 AM(UTC)
On Friday while doing a quick shop at my local Fred Meyers (Kroger) store I checked the baking aisle just to see if there was any flour yet and to my surprise there was. But it was a single 25 pound brown paper bag labeled Kroger Unbleached Flour. I stood there for a couple of minutes trying to decide whether to load it into my cart wondering where I would store that much flour, if I had enough containers to repackage it to store, if there was any more room in the freezer for zip lock bags of flour or if any of my close neighbors might like to split it with me. I finally decided to pass on it because I still have about 7 pounds of Bob's Red Mill flour on hand. It looked like they just grabbed one of the big bags of flour from their in store bakery and plopped it on the shelf without bothering to put a price on it or a price marker on the shelf. Some heavy duty home bread baker probably grabbed it and went home very happy.
#39 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:56:36 PM(UTC)

Groceries are rather sparse from reading nextdoor.com, news, and my own online orders in Silicon Valley.  Problems with covid19 cases at produce facility for Safeway in central valley.  Still have not ventured out to shop for 6 wks tomorrow.  

#40 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:39:02 PM(UTC)

Doing my best to delay the next grocery run- currently 12 days, hoping to stretch to 2+ weeks. Tonight's dinner came entirely from the freezer and garden with some very long lived herbs from the crisper drawer. Poached cod fillets on minted pea puree with salsa verde; and french fries (a stand in for the parsleyed new potatoes of my fantasy). 

#35 Posted : Monday, April 20, 2020 7:29:52 AM(UTC)

ashallen;18716 wrote:
It looks like Amazon still has 1 lb bags of SAF instant yeast.  It's an excellent brand.  Instant yeast is a bit different from traditional active dry yeast.  If you haven't used it before, King Arthur has some good information on their website about it: https://www.kingarthurfl...om/learn/resources/yeast


Like Rinshin, I keep my SAF instant yeast in the freezer - it's been there 2+ years, tightly wrapped, and is still going strong!


Thanks to everyone who is weighing in on the yeast issue. I do have partial jars of both traditional and instant yeast in the fridge. In an effort to conserve my traditional yeast, last night I made a pizza dough with the instant (instead of my favorite Barefoot Contessa dough). I'm never sure what to expect with the instant and I don't seem to have good luck with it - it never looks right before OR after the rise time and simply doesn't taste the same which explains my reluctance to order a full pound. It did the job for calzones but I'm going to check out the King Arthur article today - thanks for the link!

#42 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:23:03 AM(UTC)
As a follow up to the flour (& yeast) discussion, I JUST read a CBC news report (released April 22) where Robin Hood Flour has stated that they do have good supplies of their AP flour but are running very low on their iconic yellow bags. The article said that the west coast may already be seeing their flour on store shelves in a fairly plain looking white or brown bags. The company has assured a worried public that it is the same flour they are used to. I have yet to see the packaging here in small town Ontario - but maybe an upswing in restocking stores is coming?
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